Friday, February 15, 2008

Lieberman blurts out classified information as an excuse for torture

I can't believe I actually went to a rally to make sure this guy's votes as Al Gore's running mate got counted. Wait, actually I can, considering who the ticket was running against. But lately there's less and less difference between Joe Lieberman and Bush's followers.

Lieberman voted against the bill that passed the Senate that would ban the CIA from using waterboarding. And yesterday Lieberman asserted that waterboarding - which is more or less a type of drowning - isn't torture, because it's "not like putting burning coals on people's bodies."

In the interview with the Connecticut Post, Lieberman said, "We are at war." True, Joe, because you voted for this war. He warned, "I know enough from public statements made by Osama bin Laden and others as well as classified information I see to know the terrorists are actively planning, plotting to attack us again."

Uh, Joe??? Did you just blurt out classified information??? That ain't exactly the cool thing to do, Joe.

But I guess if Katherine Harris can do it, it doesn't exactly set a good example for other politicians. Harris, as you'll recall, divulged classified information about apparent terrorist plots - then boasted that "it's classified" but "obviously not classified to me."

If America loses a city to a terrorist attack, remember that Katherine Harris and Joe Lieberman haven't exactly been reliable about keeping classified information secret.

(Source: http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_8265434)

15 comments:

  1. Tim,

    Just wondering. Do you oppose both wars or just Iraq?

    I don't see any classified information revealed. I don't think it's a secret terrorists want to kill us and destroy our cities. Even Berkeley and Bellevue. They'd be foolish to attack before Barack Obama is sworn in though.

    Also just to correct you and Sen. Dodd, waterboarding isn't drowning unless the terrorist dies. No one survives drowning, just like no one survives electrocution.

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  2. What other war is there besides Iraq? Afghanistan? Isn't the Taliban supposed to have been driven from power by now?

    The terrorists really would be foolish to attack while Bush is still in power, because then everyone will know that the terrorists' friend Bush isn't doing shit to prevent it.

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  3. Are you not aware we still have troops in Afghanistan?

    Sometimes I wonder what goes on inside that fascinating mind of yours, Tim. One minute you're outraged because Bush is at war against terrorists, wiretapping their phones and waterboarding them in order to try to thwart their plans (so far successfully), but then you turn around and claim he's a friend to terrorists and isn't doing anything to stop them. Which is it?

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  4. Am I imagining things, or is "scheffbd" a real whacked-out right-wing kook?

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  5. Ann,

    Welcome to the Pail. Are you a Tim Brown fan or just a passing observer?

    To answer your question, I am neither a member of the right wing nor the left, but a libertarian.

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  6. AnnRK-

    You're not imagining things....if he was any more to the right he would be in the Atlantic Ocean.

    That is why most of us here just ignore him now.

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  7. Yet somehow there are more comments made on the Pail in response to something I write than something Tim writes.

    By the way, the Atlantic is only to my right when facing north.

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  8. //"I know enough from public statements made by Osama bin Laden and others as well as classified information I see to know the terrorists are actively planning, plotting to attack us again."//

    By law, public statements are not classified information. And it doesn't take a Homeland security agent to know that terrorists are planning and plotting to attack us again.

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  9. Lieberman made the statement: "...as well as classified information..."

    That to me raises a red flag..never EVER release something that's classified information.

    A public official has a much different role than anyone else does..Were I a senator, I would not be blurting out stuff like this.

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  10. Something as vague as "they're planning to attack" is not classified information. He didn't reveal anything specific about how, when or where that Homeland Security may know about.

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  11. //That to me raises a red flag..never EVER release something that's classified information.//

    Help me understand here. What part of his statement was classified?

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  12. "...as well as classified information..."

    "...as well as classified information..."

    "...as well as classified information..."

    Joke Lieberman said it himself...it's classified information.

    What part of that is not understood? HE released classified information, and it basically let the terrorists know to change tack. NOT good for national security...

    Geez, you guys are giving a whole new meaning to the phrase "thick as a brick".

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  13. //What part of that is not understood? //

    Alright, this is it. If you cannot understand this, I cannot help you. Once again here is Lieberman's statement from the article:

    "We are at war," Lieberman said. "I know enough from public statements made by Osama bin Laden and others as well as classified information I see to know the terrorists are actively planning, plotting to attack us again.

    The phrase that says, "as well as classified information ", IS NOT classified information.

    And if you say that the phrase, "the terrorists are actively planning, plotting to attack us again" is classified, you are mistaken. Anyone that has any sense knows that they are and they will, if they get the opportunity. And it IS NOT classified.

    Now if he had said when, where, and how, then he probably would have been releasing classified info. That's the law.

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  14. So Tim how's the blogging biz going lately?

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  15. It helps pay the bills, I guess. Because of Bush, the money doesn't go a long way.

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